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October 14, 2014 at 9:09 am #2109
Steven Place
KeymasterA few reasons for this trade:
1. TLT has rallied 6.5% in a month. That’s statistically stretched.
2. Into this rally implied volatility has continued to rise up to 15%. That may not seem like a lot but that’s the highest it’s been in a long time.
3. The “OMG RATES ARE SO LOW” stories are starting to come out.
So the trade I like here is a december put butterfly with intent to add:
Buy to open Dec 113/118/123 put butterfly for 1.40.
If TLT gets above 123 and 125 I will add more to the trade.
Keep in mind– this trade should be super boring so don’t expect it to make massive returns overnight. It will take a month for profits to get realized, unless vol really comes out.
Profit target is 20% of risk.
October 15, 2014 at 1:40 pm #2112Steven Place
KeymasterThat was a nasty gap up as there was basically a reverse flash crash as those betting on higher rates finally capitulated.
As we’ve hit our first adjustment target, let’s add to the trade.
This is a cool way of adding — it’s another butterfly but basically what we are doing is turning the butterfly into a condor.
Buy to open TLT Dec 118/123/128 put butterfly for .90 or lower.
So you started with a Dec 113/118/123 butterfly and now you have a 113/118 123/128 condor.
A move back above today’s highs gets me to adjust again.
October 17, 2014 at 1:44 pm #2111Steven Place
KeymasterTLT pulled back and vol dropped hard.
The trade is sitting at 17.6% return on risk after a 3 day hold, so you’ve gotta take profits here.
BUY TO CLOSE 118/113 put spread @ 1.15
SELL TO CLOSE 123/128 put spread @ 3.85
If you don’t get filled today it’s not a huge deal but would be nice to bail on this headed into the weekend
Look to reenter the trade if we see parabolic movement again.
October 20, 2014 at 1:52 pm #2110Steven Place
KeymasterWelp. This is one time where I’m glad I didn’t get filled.
Going to work in an order here:
Buy to close TLT Dec 118/113 put spread for 1.00
Sell to close TLT 128/123 put spread for 4.15
Trade is now sitting at 37% return on risk, this turned out to be a much bigger winner than I’d expected.
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